We interviewed Steve Wozniak a while ago, who talked about his early days with Apple, designing the first computers and how the company has since evolved.

Our news editor Clive Akass recorded it for his notes, but we thought Apple fans might like to hear what Steve had to say. So the sound quality is not great, as we never intended it to be broadcast.

I've left much of it in, just chopping out rambling questions/answers that went off on a tangent and the waitress asking what they wanted to drink! The ending, by the way, is genuine - after that Steve and Clive started talking about digital voice recorders.

To give you an outline of the flow, here's what Steve talked about:

• Making the Apple 1
• The Apple 2
• Bill Gates in the 70s
• His plane crash/the Macintosh project
• Leaving Apple
• Going into teaching
• His view of Apple now
• The iPod
• Shafted by Jobs
• The Mac architecture

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